The hope when we started CTCW was that the world can change, and maybe a generation from now, people will accept that there is more than they physical, and we are all interacting. But since it’s a huge change, we have to go slowly. When we know this stuff is real, it’s sometimes hard that other people who are tying themselves in knots to come up with excuses why it isn’t real, because it can’t be real, because…. We have to accept that we have to plant the small seeds of belief and let them grow in their own time. Give them a small piece, and show that it’s OK. Let time do the rest.